scales over the whole neck

[Fender_Bender]

in this video, Satriani says that you should learn scales all the way up and down the neck, at about 5:20. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNDyI5b3Fh8

Does anyone know of any websites that have scales written across the whole neck? or would it be more beneficial if I study all the scales and make my own? (I don't think I have enough understanding of music theory or scale degrees to that tho)

[LChance]

in this video, Satriani says that you should learn scales all the way up and down the neck, at about 5:20. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNDyI5b3Fh8

Does anyone know of any websites that have scales written across the whole neck? or would it be more beneficial if I study all the scales and make my own? (I don't think I have enough understanding of music theory or scale degrees to that tho)
What he's saying is, know where all the scale positions are all over the neck. There are several different ways to play the same scale, for example. One scale will have several different starting positions.

Scales have formulas too. Look at the C major scale.

C (WS) D (WS) E (HS) F (WS) G (WS) A (WS) B (HS) C


E --------------------------
B --------------------------
G --------------------------
D --------------------------
A --3--5--7-8--10--12--14-15
E --------------------------


WS = Whole step (2 frets)
HS = Half Step (1 fret)

As long as you know the formula of the Major scale, you can figure out the notes for all of them.

A major scale:

A (WS) B (WS) C# (HS) D (WS) E (WS) F# (WS) G# (HS) A


E -----------------------------
B -----------------------------
G -----------------------------
D -----------------------------
A -----------------------------
E ----5--7--9-10--12--14--16-17

[Fender_Bender]

I know most of the scales one string, but i thought he was talking about having a major scale that starts on say, the 5th fret E string and ends on the 17th fret high e string. Maybe i misunderstood what he was saying.

[LChance]

but i thought he was talking about having a major scale that starts on say, the 5th fret E string and ends on the 17th fret high e string.
That is one way of looking at it.

The important thing to get is that the same scale can be played anywhere on the neck (C, D and E on the 6th string are the same notes as C, D and E on the first string). For example, the C major scale can start at the 8th fret of the 6th string and be played C - D - E - F - G - A - B - C - D - E - F - G - A - B - C and so on until you run out of frets at the top end of the 1st string.

I was merely using the single string example above to demonstrate the formula that is used for all of the major scales, trying to drive that point home.

Find the first note anywhere on the neck of your guitar and then remember the formula above for figuring the next note of any given major scale

Another way of playing the C major scale:


E ----------
B ----------
G ---45-----
D --3-5-7---
A --3-5-7---
E -----------

Another way of playing the C major scale:


E ---------
B ---------
G -2-45---
D -23-5---
A --3-5---
E ---------

Another way of playing the C major scale:


E ---------
B O1-------
G O-2-----
D O-23----
A --3------
E ---------


NOTE: O = Play that string open once, for desired note.

[Ilutzio]

You requested a website that shows scales all over the neck.
It doesen't get any better then this: http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/guitar_scales.php

Choose FULL -> Choose the Key -> Choose the Scale Type.



One important thing to note is the root notes, and where they are.
This is important because as you practise these scales up and down the neck -- sooner or later you will want to get a feel for where the strong "chord-notes" are.

So by starting to learn where the roots are. You will also (with time ofc) get a feel for where the thirds, the fifths, the sevenths, the flat thirds, and the ninths are.
The nother notes, the twos, the forths, the sixths, the eighs are less important to learn where they are.



Let's say you want to learn C Major scale all over the neck (so choose that scale in the box).

First step: Learn seweral positions of the scale up and down the neck.
Second step: Learn how to move through them, and connect them.
Third step: Since you have memorized where the roots are in step 1 and 2 -- you now have a feel for where the strong chord notes are, in each position all over the neck.
Forth step: If you Don't have a feel for where the stong chord notes are, then go in-depth with that, like this:

Choose a position and try and counting from the root, and finding thirds, fiths, sevenths, nineths.
If you think you have found one, write down on paper the sting name, and the fret number.
Do this for like 5 minutes. Then spend 5 minutes to check how well you did. You can use the website i posted for that, like this:

Remember how you wrote the string name, and the fret down?
Let's say you tried to find a third, and wrote down: G String, Fret 9.
Then you would check if you are correct by looking at fret 9 on the chart on the website, and counting SCALE NOTES (not frets) backwards from three, and sticking on the same string as you wrote down.
Now here's the nice part: If you END the counting on a root note, you were correct! :cool:

Another example: You tried to find a fifth, and wrote down B string, fret 8.
So you count scale notes backwards, on the same string, from fret 8... and start counting on five.
Five (fret 8, B string)
Four (fret 6, B string)
Three (fret 5)
Two (fret 3)
ONE! (fret 1)
And guess what... you ended the counting on a root note! Congrats. ;)


This seems like a tedious chore, i know. But learning where the strong chord tones are is what makes your soloing sound professional.
It will make your soloing sound really well-thought out. It will sound like when -- even though your imporvising -- you know where to end your phrases, and how to emphasise strong tones that blend perfectly with the chords played in the background.
True, it's a long and tedious learning process. But your motivation should be that if you learn this, if you learn where the strong chord notes are in the scales, you will have this embedded in your playing forever!

Also, one more very motivational point:
Put on a jam track and record yoursef soling over a scale now, Just record a 3 min solo.

And then try this method with only one scale, in only one position, and learn where thirds, fiths, sevenths and ninths are. Learn it cold for that scale (that only takes an hour, so try it man!).
Now, record yourself again, and try to hang and emphasize the note you jjust learned. Onmly use the other notes, the twos, the fours, the eights, in passing, or in slurs.

Now, listen to your two recordings. Are u in love? :D

[Fender_Bender]

dude, thx!
That was exactly what I was looking for. Time to study . . .

[Chris Thomas]

Here's another one that will let you customize and print a fretboard:

http://www.123-game.com/guitar/fretboardprinter2.asp

-Chris