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Nate09
April 14th, 2007, 07:35 AM
Idk but like the past 5-10 songs David has done haven't been even any songs that i saw in the forum. Where are they all coming from?

hrblocked
April 14th, 2007, 08:11 AM
they have tons of emails backed up, so they're getting to those requests and the winners of the polls first. Then they'll get to some of the requests in the forum

richardm80
April 14th, 2007, 08:38 AM
Yea, I've never heard of these songs dave has been doing recently. I'd like some more popular british stuff.

Nate09
April 14th, 2007, 09:49 AM
Yea i agree. I wanna hear something more popular and in the mainstream. But i'm sure David has a lot of e-mails so i'm not complaining.

Fezismyidol
April 14th, 2007, 10:14 AM
so if they're doing e-mails, and poll winners. do they have anybody watching the forum??? cause if they don't. what's the point in requesting if they don't see it?

Nate09
April 14th, 2007, 10:20 AM
well the moderators are supposed to keep track of the forums and tell David I think.

daiakuji
April 14th, 2007, 10:33 AM
Guys, take a chill pill.
Mods, Tim and Dave have alot of songs to choose from and it's upto them what songs they feel are good to teach whatever popular songs they want. Besides, it would also open up your music library (if you like the songs they're teaching that you've never heard of). If you don't like it, just ignore it and wait for something else to pop up that you like.

The powers that be do monitor the threads in the request forum and the polls so it is not useless.

Nate09
April 14th, 2007, 10:37 AM
Well i kno that dude, its just that like the past 5-10 songs David has done i've never heard of and haven't seen on the forums. I'm just saying that before, the majority of the songs he did seemed more popular is all. But like i already said i'm sure David has a lot of e-mails to go through and pick the songs and stuff, so yea. I was just wondering is all.

ohiok5
April 14th, 2007, 10:39 AM
i wish they would stop doing songs and do a bunch of lesson stuff for awile. i can get a cd and a tabs to learn songs easy enough. i am more here to learn how to play music not just certian songs that people feel like teaching.

Whiskey
April 14th, 2007, 10:41 AM
Here's some things to chew on.

1) the forums are very closely watched. The mods read every single post.

2) we're not going to respond every time someone has a beef about something. We have better things to do than babysit

3) have you noticed that there are nearly 4000 request posts?

4) consider the fact that David needs time to learn these songs himself. He's not a walking cover band. He has to listen to them, learn them, practice them, record them, edit them ...

5) moderators have nothing to do with choosing the songs. I know which ones are being done, I offer my opinions and suggestions when asked. But in the end, David chooses the ones he wants to do.

hrblocked
April 14th, 2007, 02:09 PM
Everyone on the NLG staff works very hard, so if you don't like what you see then go elsewhere, enough said!

hrblocked
April 14th, 2007, 02:11 PM
i wish they would stop doing songs and do a bunch of lesson stuff for awile. i can get a cd and a tabs to learn songs easy enough. i am more here to learn how to play music not just certian songs that people feel like teaching.

If that's what you need consider purchasing a membership!

ohiok5
April 14th, 2007, 03:40 PM
i did, but most people seem to think this is just a place to learn a bunch of songs and not learn about music. this site is about getting you to the next level of a player, not being a copy cat and just learning cover band stuff, the object is to want to learn how to play and make up your own music.

EnlightenedSkull
April 14th, 2007, 04:21 PM
It doesnt matter what video David does, I go through and learn them all even if I havent heard it before and dont really like the song. I have found that you can pick up a great deal about music and guitar playing just by watching his videos. Each one that comes out teaches me something i didnt know before, and im not reffering to just the new song. New chords, new ways to use chords, new strumming patterns, new techniques, all sorts of stuff man. So he could make a video of Dr. Phils theme song and i'd check it out just to see what I could learn.

ez-one
April 14th, 2007, 07:15 PM
also the songs are free, complaining about not getting everything that you want for free is kinda lame. Lots of the songs that david post are there to help site members apply lessons, strum patterens etc..... Since the songs are free and all you have to do is wait for the next freebie, whats the beef????

Nate09
April 15th, 2007, 07:02 AM
Hey I wasn't complaining I was just asking where they were coming from since i didn't see the last 5-10 songs in the forum. and now that i kno its fine. sheesh.

Zeppelin_Maniac
April 15th, 2007, 08:52 AM
It's a sore subject, nate, that has come up before. Although you may have been asking a sincere question, any mention of what songs Dave chooses to do lessons for or people's perceived lack therof will evoke a response. More than a few threads have been started with "I didn't see any requests for this song or that song, yet Dave did a lesson on it".

Certainly you -- and others -- will evoke a response when you state that you'd rather see "something more popular and in the mainstream" instead of what Dave chooses to present to you as a teacher. I gotta admit, that kinda sounds like a complaint to me. I'm thinking others probably saw it the same way.

So... just some words of advise on my part. I don't mean any offense and I hope you understand where some folks are coming from here. Some see this forum as a place to learn songs and others see it as a place to learn more than that. I doubt the two will ever come together and this subject will continue to rage from time-to-time.

Dave mentions in one of his latest videos that there's too much emphasis on song requests. Then he goes on to say that the songs are his vehicle for teaching something specific. So, it's NOT the choice of songs so much as it is something within a particular song. Sage words of wisdom if you ask me.

Nate09
April 15th, 2007, 02:41 PM
It's a sore subject, nate, that has come up before. Although you may have been asking a sincere question, any mention of what songs Dave chooses to do lessons for or people's perceived lack therof will evoke a response. More than a few threads have been started with "I didn't see any requests for this song or that song, yet Dave did a lesson on it".

Certainly you -- and others -- will evoke a response when you state that you'd rather see "something more popular and in the mainstream" instead of what Dave chooses to present to you as a teacher. I gotta admit, that kinda sounds like a complaint to me. I'm thinking others probably saw it the same way.

So... just some words of advise on my part. I don't mean any offense and I hope you understand where some folks are coming from here. Some see this forum as a place to learn songs and others see it as a place to learn more than that. I doubt the two will ever come together and this subject will continue to rage from time-to-time.

Dave mentions in one of his latest videos that there's too much emphasis on song requests. Then he goes on to say that the songs are his vehicle for teaching something specific. So, it's NOT the choice of songs so much as it is something within a particular song. Sage words of wisdom if you ask me.


I agree. And yea i guess it did kind of like I was complaining by saying i'd rather have something more mainstream and i didn't mean it to sound that way, because like i've already said i kno that David has a lot of songs to go through in his e-mails and such and to pick them out. Basically yea hes very busy. So yea i'm sorry for mentioning this subject again.

Anthony
April 15th, 2007, 03:33 PM
To be fair though, I read Dave's site about giving guitar lessons and he say's, "are you fed up with seeing guitar tutors who teach you what they want, instead of what you want to learn", and he places emphasis on the fact that he'll teach you what YOU want to learn and not make you learn things you have no interest in. So I'd have thought it'd be kinda the same here?

hrblocked
April 15th, 2007, 03:39 PM
Is he not teaching you want you want? are you not here to learn to play guitar?? Isn't that what this community is about? There's no possible way he can teach every single one of us, 2000 or more people, everything we want.
If you like david's lessons get a membership, if you don't then just take lessons elsewhere instead of posting, complaining trying to change something that's been around long before you came around

pdx_David
April 15th, 2007, 11:23 PM
To be fair though, I read Dave's site about giving guitar lessons and he say's, "are you fed up with seeing guitar tutors who teach you what they want, instead of what you want to learn", and he places emphasis on the fact that he'll teach you what YOU want to learn and not make you learn things you have no interest in. So I'd have thought it'd be kinda the same here?


One other small point to keep in mind is... Just because it isn't the song that you want to learn. Doesn't mean it isn't the song that no one wants to learn.

Take todays song for instance. It is not something that I am interested in, but I might take a crack at it because it teaches something that will help me along.

Also you use the quote "...not make you learn things you have no interest in."

The beauty of the site is that he is not making you do anything. If you don't want to learn the song that is posted this time. Don't. Wait for the next one. It might be more to your liking.

Just a thought

Anthony
April 16th, 2007, 09:52 AM
Is he not teaching you want you want? are you not here to learn to play guitar?? Isn't that what this community is about? There's no possible way he can teach every single one of us, 2000 or more people, everything we want.
If you like david's lessons get a membership, if you don't then just take lessons elsewhere instead of posting, complaining trying to change something that's been around long before you came around

"There's no possible way he can teach every single one of us, 2000 or more people, everything we want".........Isn't that why there is a SONG REQUEST section, so that the most popular song get's taught? That way the majority learn what they want to learn!
Oh and the comment about changing things that have been around longer than I have? Way to make new members feel welcome! If your new, shut up, it was like this long before you were here, so your contributions are not wanted. So only people who have been members a long time count?

Zeppelin_Maniac
April 16th, 2007, 10:59 AM
Everybody cool out please. Let's take a deep breath and a moment. There's really no reason to keep belaboring the point. Let's just recognize that there are 2 sides to this issue and move on without getting into an all-out brawl.

Move along, there's nothing more to see here.

jb007
April 16th, 2007, 12:26 PM
Oh and the comment about changing things that have been around longer than I have? Way to make new members feel welcome! If your new, shut up, it was like this long before you were here, so your contributions are not wanted. So only people who have been members a long time count?

Uh, thats not what he said at all. I'm a fairly new member and I didn't take offense to that whatsoever. He never said anything that resembled "If your new, shut up, it was like this long before you were here, so your contributions are not wanted."

Theres a difference between not complaining, and shutting up. There is also a difference between complaining and contributions.