OK no tabs on NLG, lets try this?

[jmaibauer]

I know we cant use tabs and im not going to bark up that tree. But i was wondering if we could put the strum pattern. I dont know what the definition of Tabliture is, so im not sure if this would go under that category or not.

But if you have a simple strum pattern with a chord, the timing, speed, etc is what really makes the song. You can play the same 3 chords with the same strum tons of different ways and get completely different songs. Its very similar to the case George harrision made when he got sued for my sweet lord.

Something like this, you dont even have to have lyrics, we get the point

G C Am
uudu ddu dddu

[jmaibauer]

well the spacing got messed up but you get the point

[mavv-]

Yes but as long as you include the title of the song (which you need for identification obviously) any sort of note or chord identification isn't allowed, its still considered tablature.

[richardm80]

Yes but as long as you include the title of the song (which you need for identification obviously) any sort of note or chord identification isn't allowed, its still considered tablature.


But they list the chords under some of the song videos on this site!!

[mavv-]

But they list the chords under some of the song videos on this site!!

Chord names are one thing, strum patterns are another, plus David breaks down the strum patterns in detail during the lessons anyways.

[streetknight]

I think the OP was probably getting at fellow formites helping each other and not relying on David for everything.

As far as the tab thing, since David does tell us the chords and strum in the vids, why would it be different to post it here? I wouldn't consider the chords and strum a tab anyway. And if it's your interpretation of the song or in "the vein of" how could there be copyright issues. you could be playing in a different key or something.

The only tab sites I've seen shut down are the ones that had lyrics and tab posted together anyway.

[daiakuji]

It's illegal to share mp3s so what we'll do is we'll write the songs in binary and then send the source code then whoever gets it compiles it and then you can listen to the song :D

I'll start!
10101010101110100101 okay I give up :(

[jimmylegs]

Most tab sites were not shut down, but shut down on there own terms because of the pressure from the music industry, due to the fact that these tab sites were supposedly offering tabs of copyrighted protected songs and they weren't making any money off of it. I'm not sure how someones own interpretation of a song can be a copyright infringement when not in actual print. Don't quote me on this but I believe this effected US based sites only and they can't do anything about sites outside the US. One of the top sites, which maybe you can find whatever tab you looking for here along with music news and reviews, is UG which I believe is based out of Germany or somewhere.

I'm sure if David or Tim want to give up an arm or a leg, (no arms please, that would mean no more vids) then they can supply tabs. However, I've been playing almost 2 years now, which from the beginning was mainly from tabs and I think what David and Tim are doing now is the best and easiest way to learn the songs they are posting, along with getting information from each video to go and play songs on your own that are not posted. Since David's first video that I found on YouTube, it made learning some songs easier and faster, along with getting additional information than looking at tabs.

If you need a tab then google for some, else enjoy and learn from the videos. There the best !!!!

Rock on Dave and Tim !!!!

[Argonin]

well i asked in the topic 'Why, NextLevelGuitar, cannot have tabs. Please Read!' if i could post the chords of a song
and whiskey told me that it's OK

http://www.nextlevelguitar.com/aforum/showthread.php?t=268

[MyMindIsGoing]

God I hate the RIAA, not everything in the world has to make money. Let's destroy the act of musicians teaching each other songs over the Internet because we want to sell more sheet music. I'm surprised they don't want to charge David and Tim for the rights to describe to someone how to play a song, or maybe we should blur out Davids hands while he's playing so he doesn't give away copyrighted secrets. Makes me crazy.

[ez-one]

tabs, chords whats the differance, this is a guitar learning site that has its own set of rules. Th ere are other guitar forums, tab sites ect where posting in ok or incouraged, why not just accept the rules of this site and let it go. I think that Whiskey needs to post the dead horse photo on this thread. :-)

[jmaibauer]

you guys always say that it is easy just google some other site. Well i wish it were that way, but in many of daves lessons he plays "in the vein of" and there are rarely any tabs that represent that. Even if i did find it, how do i know that its right. Go look for smoke on the water tabs and tell me how many different ways there is to play it, which one is right.

Thats why i want a link or some kind of information associated with the song

[dewd]

Go look for smoke on the water tabs and tell me how many different ways there is to play it, which one is right.



Why does it matter which one is right? It should be your interpretation of the song. If you want it exactly as the original artist, buy a song book at a music store (of course, that could be "wrong" as well).

[ez-one]

also you can try a couple different ones and decide whichh one is the best for you. thats how I use tabs, sometimes the person that tabed it really doesn't know the song, so I check out a couple and find the one that works for me, it takes a little effort, but I am using it for free, free and exact would be better, but then someone would have to be checking and deleteing all the ones that were not exact....

[Argonin]

i use tabs in combination with youtube
try to find a good live performance where u have sight on the guitar, so u can check if the tabs are right
or try to find some good covers on youtube, most of those vids have a pretty good sight on the guitar neck

[SwingingJohnson]

and 99.9% of artists in the RIAA are lucky if they get a 4 cent check once a year.

[Whiskey]

Lets end this thread here. Strum patterns will be considered tabs. They wont be allowed. You want to ask what chords are in a song. OK. Theres no law against that. But as far as how the song is played, lets stay clear. Use the lessons provided here to learn how to figure the songs out yourself. Or go to a tabs site on your own.

As far as the difference between David doing something and members doing it. Its Davids site. He does his research. He knows the rules. Its his responsibility. And he has respectfully asked that others avoid anything similar. We don't want to keep drawing lines in the sand and seeing how close everyone can get to it before they step over.

[jimmylegs]

Yeah I've done the same as Arginon. If you watch some videos try tabbing a bit from them yourself and then go searching for something similar. Also some better tabs sites may be back up soon - one of the well known sites that shut down temporarily, is supposedly in negotiation with music publishers about giving them some cut of the Ad money pocketed from their site and they will still supply the tabs for free. You can however go and purchase sheet music if you have a hard time finding a tab that seems to be correct. Or ask someone to tab it out for you.

Not sure what the big thing about tabs is, I don't hear many artist crying poverty, unless they spent there millions on drugs, beer and rehab. Beeeer !!! :D

PS. Sorry Whiskey, must have been typing while you were posting. Lay to rest this topic.

[AceFrehleyGuitarGod]

Another Thread On It's Last Ride To The NLG Graveyard

[ez-one]

Wheres the photo of the dead horse :-)

[daiakuji]

Didn't we have it for dinner last night? :confused:

[MyMindIsGoing]

Lets end this thread here. Strum patterns will be considered tabs. They wont be allowed. You want to ask what chords are in a song. OK. Theres no law against that.

There's no law against tabs either but the record companies just claim copyright violation and litigate until the other side (who can't afford to go to court) gives in and settles,ceases and desists and just plain apologizes despite not having done anything wrong.

I understand David not wanting to deal with the potential legal hassle but we don't have to act like we like it or talk about tabs all hush hush like we're doing something wrong either.

[Argonin]

if any mod is reading this:
is it OK to PM eachother tabs or links to tabs?
cuz it´s private after all?

[Blewbyou]

That's why the video song lessons are free to everyone. They(David and Tim) are not making money off of someone else's songs and work. So instead of taking a chance on being shut down or any pressure for royalties they made them free to all as their own interpretation of the original. The rest of the lessons on the site are David's work and there is no problems with them as far as copy rite infringements.

At least that's my take on the situation from what I was told.

As far as I'm concerned a PM is a private message and what is traded between two people using them is their business.

Blew

[ez-one]

I think that the best and easiest thing to do is accept and respect the fact that on this forum tabs are not allowed, for whatever the reason, it really doesn't matter, if you what to exchange tabs with someone there are plenty of web sites where that can be done. Even some of the song chord postings that I have been seeing seem to be just seeing how far it can be pushed. Why not just drop it, enjoy what is here, and go somewhere else for the other stuff?????

[jmaibauer]

blewbyyou, you just made my exact point. The video lessons are mostly dave and tims interpretation of the song. My main point is that often times it is very hard, if not impossible, to find tabs that shows how they present it in the video. Yes i kow you can just watch it, but that often ends up in watching the video countless time and spending considerable time just writing it all down

[ez-one]

I usally do a google for the song lyrics and then write out the chords from the lessons, its been working pretty good and I am starting to get a binder full of stuff that I can play

[Whiskey]

To the Graveyard with this thread. There is nothing new to be said.