Perfect Pitch

[disobedience]

Not sure where else to put this.

I started the Perfect Pitch course...figured it'd help having a better trained ear.

Just curious if anyone else has taken or is taking the course...what's your thoughts on it?

Thanks all!

[angelicrock]

Some people are naturals. Im not, I accept it, but we can all learn it. Thats an opinion of mine, but many of my fellow guitarists support it. It definately helps but I dont think perfect pitch is needed to progress. Hopefully you can get it though. I wish I had it.

[disobedience]

I agree that you don't "need" it to progress or even play guitar....I'm just working on taking my own skills to the next level ;)

Thanks for the feedback Angelicrock :)

[wavelog]

Hey.. i think this might sound stupid... but ouhh well...
whats perfect pitch course?
theres always that noob that annoys everyone :D

[disobedience]

Heh...not annoying at all wavelog....I wasn't even thinking when I posted this.

The course I'm talking about is supposed to help you recognize pitches by ear. Apparently everyone is born with the ability but needs to train it.
So...I figured where I'm just starting the course..I'd see if anyone else has / had feedback on it.

[Blewbyou]

I've always been intrigued by it and thought I'd buy it but I don't know anyone who has and so I wait until I here of some feedback no conected to the advertisements
Dis you might be the guinea pig I mean that person

[disobedience]

I'm gonna start tracking my progress and I'll keep everyone posted.
So far...I can't pick out any notes other than relative to another note.
But if you asked me if a note was C or C# I'd be lost :)

[Dmackenzie]

Hey Dis, I'd be quite interested to get your take on it and its results, because if you notice some degree of improvement I might follow the same course. I can, for the most part spot most of the regular intervals (M m P), but the accidentals can throw a guy for a loop, haha.
keep me posted, it sounds interesting!

Dmack.

[disobedience]

Will do Dmack....it's not Relative pitch training tho. It's supposed to help you identify each pitch by ear. Apparently it's quite simple once you train your ear and from what I've learned so far (lesson 1 and 2) it's mostly just learning to listen properly.

Kinda like when you first start tuning a guitar by ear....takes a bit of practice to know the sound....but...I guess this is something everyone is born with but never uses.

They say it's like watching a movie on a black an white TV and watching it in color. Same movie....more vibrancy and detail.

[Dmackenzie]

Most definitely a handy tool, especially if it were to come to songwriting when you apply it to the fretboard... lol but yeah, I was only saying that my 'pitch' training is rather limited, lol.

I remember a few years back seeing an add for some version of the course in Guitar Player... I quickly dismissed the notion though, I didn't think I had a shot at having the talent. I have stumbled across some conjecture that, although some are allegedly 'born' with it, others just can't do it. I've feared I fell into the latter bracket;).

[disobedience]

I think I'll be the perfect test subject as I'm already partially deaf.
And NO it's not from playing to loud (much).

There's 24 lessons and you're supposed to work on 1 each day...so I'll be able to give a pretty good account of my results soon.

Just to clarify...I have NO official music training...I took 1 guitar lesson when I was 14 (1/2 hour) and everything I know is pretty much self taught. I can't read music very well....and my school didn't even offer music. So...I figure if this works for me...it should work for anyone ;)

[the real prozac]

That is something in which I'd be interested. Could post a link or give info on how to find it. I'm a beginner and can't really recognize any notes.

[TheMilligan]

I saw an add for this in guitar world. Hows the progress?

[disobedience]

So far it's going good...I won't say great cause I haven't had time to work at it every day....but things are slowing down at work so I'll be getting back to it full force in the next few days :)

[the real prozac]

Here is a link that I stumbled upon a few days ago. While it isn't the dvd set, it is a basic ear trainer online. Good Ear (http://www.good-ear.com/)

[mrichard]

Disobedience,
Does your traing come with CD's etc. I spend over 3 hours a day in my car going to and from work. I am also self taught and think this might help me. I can read tabs very well and the like but I always thought I could use some pitch training. I still have problems tuning my guitar by ear. I am getting better very slowly but I making progress just by playing. Also how much is it?
Mrichard

[disobedience]

It comes with a pile of CD's - it's all listening to them with some exercises you do with your own instrument.

I got mine on Ebay new for $60.00 US.
If you do some digging you can find it all over the net for good prices. So far, I'm noticing a big difference in what I hear...I'm not at the Perfect Pitch level yet...but I hear way more than before.

[ez-one]

Dis, so do ya have an update on this? Was wondering if you feel that you are still making progress.

[lfclfclfc123]

i tried perfect pitch once, well not the course my piano teacher just played a note on the piano while i looked away and i had to guess it. i managed to get them all within one semitone allthough im sure it was just sheer luck.

theres something called the bently pitch test you might want to try it basicly plays two notes and you have to say if the 2nd was higher or lower than the 1st:D

[hookooekoo]

Yup, I would definitely would love to "hear" (HeHe) how this goes, I would consider doing this myself.

[disobedience]

......theres something called the bently pitch test you might want to try it basicly plays two notes and you have to say if the 2nd was higher or lower than the 1st:D

That would deal more with relative pitch...something every guitarist should strive towards developing :)

[ez-one]

Dis, so do ya have an update on this? Was wondering if you feel that you are still making progress.

[disobedience]

Yeah...I'm starting to hear the pitch colors he talks about. I'm doing the exercises from the 5th part...taking a while cause you can't force it to happen...it's more relaxing and letting the ear learn to hear :)
So far tho I'm really impressed!!

[Bounty]

Dis this is pretty interesting. So how far in are you? Would you recomend the course at this point? Your pretty hard on stuff so I'm interested in your review.

[disobedience]

I can't recommend it yet..I"m only on lesson 5. The exercises take time to work with and develop your ear.

At this point in developing my ear...if you asked me if I'd buy it again I'd say yes...but I'm far from done :)
Once I get further into it and complete the course I'll post a full review on it.

[Chet Ubetcha]

I think I'm going to try and find this on Ebay. If I can pick it up for about the same price as you got it for, I'll go for it.

A few questions, though, on it's optimal usuage: What's the best way to use this course...like, through headphones, a stereo, or will playing it through my laptop work sufficiently?

You mentioned you are already partially deaf. I have a good deal of hearing loss, too (hooray, military jets!) and have acute tinitus. My ears ring all the time. My right ear is more severe than my left. Will this affect my ability to get the most out of this course, do you think?

[disobedience]

According to David Lucas Burge (the guy who made the course) it won't make that much difference.
I think if you work with it you should have no trouble. The cd's basically explain how and what you need to do for exercises...it's just a matter of doing them :)

[Chet Ubetcha]

Cool, thanks. Any recent updates?

[mrichard]

Hows the training going?

[TheMilligan]

i got my hands on this set today.

ill keep you guys updated.

[Blewbyou]

TheMilligan,

Progress updates would be awesome! I'm sure there are more than a few members who would be interested.

Thanks

[TheMilligan]

Okay after one night i have made it through 3 classes.

THe first class offers an introduction.He explains how it is usefull and i think he compares relative pitch to perfect pitch in this class.

The second class we begin. You Dont start off with a note and a description, however you start off tryign to get the feeling. he offers homework for you to do with your instrument. Your are trying to get the feeling of the notes.

Class three expands on this with more examples of how a note can sound different through various instruments but it will always have the feel.



So, so far it has been a lot of explination about your ear and sound. Cant reccomend it yet. I may have to shorten down my progress reports too dunno about the legal stuff if i explain too much hehe.

[simplexify]

http://socs.berkeley.edu/~wcooper/pitchcoach.html

Have a look at this little program.
Man, you can really invest a lot of time in things like that. I don't know, if it was better to just play the guitar. :confused:

Maybe, one should incorporate ear training in the daily practice regiment, though.